Reality of ProPakistani – A Complete Story
The other day we seen an article on LESCO staff numbers being changed to Telenor from Warid, PkReaders was the first one to publish that on 3rd of january, article was copied on to net by ProPakistani, and while asked to put a link back, comment was regarded as a spam. Read the whole story..
Those were the very early days when we just started our journey, here we got one article by one of our writer,
http://www.pkreaders.com/2009/07/sms-alerts-provide-to-60-academic-institutions-by-pta
Aamir Atta simply came up with :
This line was not in Press Release, and was my personal findings….
Bahi jaan linkback????
So a link back was just added. Time goes on and i had some working experience with Aamir Atta and i still remeber the words, Our Data is published on 100 blogs and literally no one gives link back. Let me copy the orignal chat:
Have an example:
http://propakistani.pk/2010/01/03/arfa-karim-brand-ambassador-ptcl-evo/
at ProPakistani, the girl was named wrong as Arfa Khan – as someone commented to make the correction, so was done.
Have a look at following links, all named Arfa Khan – not Arfa Karim.
Now please do not say all of those copied from ProPakistani 
and there is no link back
- http://www.flare.com.pk/news.php?n=1607
- http://mobirevolution.blogspot.com/2010/01/arfa-khan-as-brand-ambassador-for-evo.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+MobiRevolution+(Mobi+Revolution)
- http://www.apnatime.com/3565/2010/01/03/telecom/ptcl-designates-the-youngest-microsoft-certificate-professional-mcp-as-its-evo-brand-ambassador/
- http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=1001970&currPageNo=1&query=&search=&term=&supDate=
I commented – “Actually when you copy stuff – such mistakes happen”
But my comment was never approved
Now the point is not to personally pin point or some offense, but the thing what actually is the story.
Go through following video.
[youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylwtMkUlNJY]
* For those who are unable to view the video. Follow the link:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylwtMkUlNJY
Now we are here after 2 days and the comment still not approved. Now you can see the old comment too in video – one that was posted on 4th of Jan, pending and still not approved and ammir atta came to me caliming:
Now i would like to ask respected Mr. Aamir Atta, Wasn’t this spamming ?
http://www.pkreaders.com/2009/07/sms-alerts-provide-to-60-academic-institutions-by-pta
Video clearly shows my comment posted on 4th of Jan, and is still pending and the one i commented on 5th of January.
Point is, not to show some offense yet make sure when you ask for something, do have the courage to give back when you are asked to do so. Now, i am openly inviting anyone to come and prove that my comment was a spam. I would then totally confess that my this post was a crap, and if you cant, then think about what ProPakistani guys are doing.
Are they biased or somewhat self-centered that my following comment was not approved.
When copied, You might have given a link back
http://www.pkreaders.com/2010/01/business-promotion-tactics-or-competitor-rivalry
Was that a Spam ?
Wasn’t the idea was stolen from PkReaders ?
Ok as per Aamir Atta mine UBL Wiz post was wrong, so he didn’t give link back – i would not talk about newsletter from where he got the idea, not from pkreaders. Though the newsletter came too late. i myself got that too
Question is left unanswered to you. How can you claim to have link back when you do not have courage to link back a lot of sites ?
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Dear Mr. Ahsen, you didn’t show the whole chat to people, where I confessed that I copied but made corrections, you had plenty of spelling mistakes.
I also mentioned you to correct your spellings. You also didn’t produce that part of chat where I told you are not the first one to produce this story.
I was rather shouting at you (as a brother) to correct your spellings.
You forgot to tell people that we were friends, rather like brothers, and you also worked for ProPakistani. However, I was late on payment (due to domestic reasons).
About Arfa Karim story, Mr. Ahsen, the mistake was carried away by PTCL PR guys who sent the press release, and that’s the reason everyone carried it as Arfa Khan.
Moreover, You also didn’t tell people that you (very consistently mashAllah) copies ProPakistani without link backs, and rather drop your links on ProPakistani, which I used to happily approve.
I apologize form you for being so frank in relation.
I have given a link back on LESCO post, but you are no more a friend. I have already deleted you from IMs.
Thank You
Respected Mr. Aamir Atta, now let me answer and justify your each and every statement one by one.
Well i thought not to share the whole story but if you want to and want to drag that UBL issue now so have the justification.
You said in chat you are also a UBL customer so you get newsletter from there you came to know about UBL Wiz Teen, also you said you didn’t gave link back as there were spelling mistakes.
Now if there were spelling mistakes do they anything to do with link backing ? Be Practical
and Regarding you said that you are also a UBL customer and got newsletter so have alook at following two screenshots
http://www.imagefi.com/images/ubl.jpg
http://www.imagefi.com/images/ublwizqeq.png
Me and my cousin are also UBL customers and get UBL newsletters, For Your kind info, please check the date of News Letter from both of the screenshots, Dated 31 December 2009, and please look at the articles dates:
http://www.pkreaders.com/2009/12/ubl-wiz-teen-internet-card – Written by Ahsan on December 9, 2009
http://propakistani.pk/2009/12/09/easy-internet-shopping-with-ubl-wiz-teen-prepaid-card – By Aamir Attaa · Wednesday, Dec 9, 2009
Big Difference in 9 December and 31st December
So, Be Piratical.
Once again i didn’t like to mention that payment issue and if you want to drag it into all this, lets go with it. But before this go through your chat history and show me a single offensive line regarding the late payment, in fact i even never asked you regarding the payment, you have to admit it
Yes i do worked for ProPakistani and that was good experience and i never remember that payment issues, but you are dragging useless issues into all this
Once again, Be Practical!!
Reagrding Arfa Khan – Obviously that’s the issue i am not saying that you copied that from PkReaders the thing is from wherever you copied and published, what my comment was ?
“Actually when you copy stuff – such mistakes happen”
Was this a spam ? which ought not to be approved ? Wasn’t it a fact ? You simply denied that
And Here we come to copy from ProPakistani, i would openly welcome you to show a single post that was copied from ProPakistani. If copied there is a link back, and those posts which have the same stuff as on ProPakistani but no link backs, Mr. Aamir Atta be sure that those are not your personal contents, infact those are the orignal press releases from other sites, like PTA, PTCl etc etc so you can’t claim to have a link back on those artciles.
Once Again, Be PRACTICAL!!
and regarding the last lines. I think those are real childish comments which need not to be justified
“I have already deleted you from IMs.”
Whole of your comment didn’t even answered to one of my question – what actually was the purpose of my post.
“Was that a Spam ?” Which was not approved by You 2 times.
Getting link back would not label me a “ProPakistani Link Back Receiver” in fact purpose is to get answer from you, which you are simply avoiding.
And at the end, i would literally say you were just beating about the bush, as the soul purpose was to answer this post, not to drag the old issues into all this which i myself ignored, need not to be discussed.
Feel free to answer, i am still willing to have your answer, else fells like you don’t have that.
at the end my last advice. BE PRACTICAL!!
Okay – your comments were not SPAM, and i am sorry for terming your comments as SPAM.
Linkback is already there.
About deleting you from my IM was not childish – i never had imagined that a casual conversation with a friend, who used to call me elder brother could be made public.
I think i have answered you, i wish not to respond you any further.
Mr. Ahsan did you got permission from Mr. Aamir before publishing private CHAT??? I think law prohibits this?
The year 2010 is celebrated as a PEACE YEAR…our youth like you people are the promoters and of tolerance & advocate that in youth affairs. Accepting a fault is a very righteous deed no doubt but i personally think such matters should be handled professionally.
Yes i am agree with Irum and such matters should be handled professionally, rather publicly. Copy paste is going on every where in the world ……… sometimes people highlight but mostly smartly hide with editing. And Ahsan sb publishing private CHAT is really childish.
First of All, Applogy for the late reply as i am busy in my final term exams.
Now, let me answer to each and evryone one by one.
@ Respected MR. Atta:
That was the point, that’s why i said your previous comment was just like dragging crap issues into all this as they have nothing to do with this. And here i would like to say one thing again, be careful about your words when you are going to publish something online, as you have much much more experience than me so you better know the importance of words.
“Moreover, You also didn’t tell people that you (very consistently mashAllah) copies ProPakistani without link backs” As i already answered to it.
Regarding the making chat public, i am going to answer in next ( M.Zohair Chohan’s Comment).
As per your wish, if you do not want to respond further.
but the thing is – I beg your pardon – you simplay didn’t had the answer to my single question, and you and your guys are simply beating about the bush, like I had another one -MZC on wiredpakistan. I simply can’t understand why you people are behaving like kids by just simply trying to overcome with lame excuses, leaving the orignal matter far behind.
I think this is becasue when you are at fault and you are not willing to accept it, you go on arguing with whatever – a single old weak point you got.
@ Mr. Chohan:
Please do not try to be an apple polisher, I do agree publishing chat online is immoral but the thing is, when he is even ready to say this:
“You also didn’t produce that part of chat…..”
So please, Be Practical not flatterer.
@ Irum:
This is not about something “fight” or “envy” infact the point was just to satisfy what lame excuses i was getting. and with the Grace of Allah Almighty i must say i answered to all of those lame excuses and the commenter didn’t have the courage again to response back on same issue. As when you are at fault and try to make aruguements, time comes when you run out of these.
@ Tanveer Akhtar:
I think my previous replies answers your’s too. Both on Zohair and Irum.
And at the end, i would say, doesn’t matter whether you are a Team or a single person. One who is right always rules. Doesnt matter when a single person is coping up with a Team.
As alot of those who have nothing to do with all this are also simply trying to pounce on – but as usuall with lame excuses. Simply dragging crap issues into all this. Have an example – the guy or comapny MZC on wiredpakistan, Follow the link
http://www.wiredpakistan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=10421
Someone very dear to me had told me earlier, Ahsan, you may not be able to cope up with their Team as they will try to let you down, but by the Grace of Allah Almighty, Truth Speaks itself.
PLease stop this fighting Mr Aamir and Mr Ahsan… Lets Be friend again…
There was nothing like fighting but you or everyone who is totally unbiased can easily reckon who is making lame excuses and who is at right.